A personal miracle has occurred for me. I will be on Oprah Winfrey's “Super Soul Sunday” show! I can’t believe it.
On Wednesday, June 1st, I traveled with my beloved colleague and friend, Sara Vetter, to Oprah Winfrey’s beautiful estate in Santa Barbara, CA. There, I was interviewed by Oprah for an hour for her Super Soul Sunday program.
It was absolutely one of the most magical and powerful experiences of my life. The interview was fantastic. Oprah asks brilliant questions and makes you feel so comfortable that you could actually tell her anything.
She focused on the messages in my book, The Soul of Money, including: the 3 toxic myths of scarcity, the principle of sufficiency, and other aspects of our relationship with money. She did not ask me about the Pachamama Alliance, but I did get a chance to mention it twice in the interview. I was in a kind of altered state–being with her–and have no idea what I actually said, but I think it was great!
My experience was one of being received, deeply listened to, and held in the grace and power or her attention and love. Oprah is simply remarkable.
On top of that, Sara Vetter (who was with me) and I were then invited to walk with her from the setting where the interview took place–under a beautiful grove of trees on her vast property–up to her main house, which is simply spectacular. She calls it “The Promised Land” and it is.
There, in her fabulous home, on the exquisite veranda overlooking the ocean, she asked me to have a conversation with four of the girls who attended her Leadership Academy in South Africa and are now graduating from college in the United States. They are living with her for the summer. She calls them her daughters and they call her “Mammo”, a South African term for Mother. They are from some of the poorest communities in South Africa, yet, with the education Oprah has made possible, they have become eloquent, confident, clear, and impressive young women.
We had a conversation about how to navigate the world of money, which is challenging for all of them. It was such a privilege to engage with them about what they will face when they go home, as well as how to navigate the culture of money they also face here in the USA. Then, we all had the opportunity to hear Oprah tell the story of her own personal journey with money. That was one of the most incredible and moving stories I have ever heard.
Then, Sara and I got to stay for dinner with Oprah and the girls. We all sat at her beautiful round dining room table, where I am sure many remarkable people have sat and where many conversations have taken place. We were joined by DeVon Franklin and Meagan Goode, a stunning African American “power-couple” from Hollywood (who were interviewed just before me that same day) and one of her top producers, the amazing Tara Montgomery.
The conversations over dinner were intimate, joyful, fun, profound, and enlightening. We touched on many topics and heard story after story from Oprah and Tara about the 25 years of the Oprah Show and the many guests who were on it. She shared stories about people who are no longer with us like: Michael Jackson, Prince, and Whitney Houston. She told stories about Bill Clinton, Aretha Franklin, and other luminaries. It was fascinating, fun and in some cases remarkably funny. We felt so honored and included as she shared with us story after story of what happened in front of the camera and behind the scenes.
Oprah is real, spiritually grounded, loving, smart, and incredibly generous–just as we all have seen from knowing her from afar. After meeting her up close and having this personal time with her, my respect for her has increased 10-fold. She is clearly one of the most remarkable people on this planet.
June 1st, 2016 will always be an unforgettable day in my life.
The program will air in the Fall and we will make sure to let everyone know when it’s going to happen. We intend for the program to make a real contribution to healing people’s relationship with money and the money culture, as well as to create a huge surge in sales of The Soul of Money book and awareness of the work of The Soul of Money Institute and the Pachamama Alliance.
Thank you all for the support you have given me over the years which I know made this miracle possible.
P.S. We were not allowed to take photos while there, but Oprah’s team took plenty and they will be posted prior to when the program airs.